{"id":19,"date":"2011-04-03T14:13:07","date_gmt":"2011-04-03T21:13:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/?p=19"},"modified":"2011-04-03T14:13:07","modified_gmt":"2011-04-03T21:13:07","slug":"r-c-sproul-on-hell-wrong-five-times-in-just-four-paragraphs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/2011\/04\/03\/r-c-sproul-on-hell-wrong-five-times-in-just-four-paragraphs\/","title":{"rendered":"R.C. Sproul on Hell: Wrong Five Times in Just Four Paragraphs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I recently ran across a blog entry entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.totascriptura.com\/2011\/03\/31\/r-c-sproul-on-hell\/\">R.C. Sproul on Hell<\/a>. The post is just an excerpt from one of Sproul&#8217;s books, prefaced by a comment that the\u00a0selection is &#8220;a\u00a0great treatment on the doctrine of Hell.&#8221; While I&#8217;m\u00a0accustomed\u00a0to shoddy work in this area, I think Sproul has set the bar pretty low here, which is especially surprising considering the blog author&#8217;s glowing endorsement and the fact that Sproul is, in general, a pretty careful thinker.<\/p>\n<p>Sproul is actually\u00a0wrong more than five times. His last sentence, for example, assumes a faulty view of the intermediate state, but that&#8217;s a\u00a0debatable\u00a0issue that would require quite a bit of space to bear out. Below is the actual text under consideration. Bolding and brackets have been added to indicate the\u00a0claims\u00a0in dispute. [1] through [5] are easily shown, I think, to be in error. [A] and [B] are more speculative claims that I won&#8217;t say are necessarily <em>false<\/em>, but deserve comment nonetheless.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The doctrine of eternal punishment, though unpopular and frightening, is part of the confession of every branch of the historic Christian church. <strong>[1] Only in the last century, under the influence of liberalism, have some reinterpreted the doctrine.<\/strong> While some flatly deny hell\u2019s existence, others understand it to be a temporary place of purging or punishment. Others advocate annihilationism, in which God ends the existence of the unrepentant soul.\u00a0Such theologies seek to escape or mitigate the implications of eternal punishment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>[2] The fact is, however, that virtually every statement in the Bible concerning hell comes from the lips of Jesus Christ.<\/strong> We cannot take Jesus seriously without also taking seriously what he said regarding eternal punishment.<\/p>\n<p>There is very little about hell in the Old Testament<strong> [3] and very little in the Epistles. [A] It is almost as if God decided that a teaching this frightening would not be received from any lesser authority than that of his own Son.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>[4] Jesus chose the most dreadful images he could find to describe the reality of hell.<\/strong> One is the image of darkness, which emphasizes separation from God. Another is that of fire,<strong> [5] or a lake of fire.<\/strong> I believe that the lake of fire is a symbol and that the reality is far worse than the symbol. <strong>[B] The wicked who are now experiencing the wrath of God would do anything to jump into a mere lake of fire.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>1.<\/strong> Even if we give\u00a0Sproul\u00a0the benefit of the doubt, and assume that by &#8220;the last century&#8221; he means the 19th century, he would still be wrong. Anyone who disputes this can read Al Mohler&#8217;s chapter in\u00a0<em>Hell Under Fire.<\/em> There we have an evangelical, contributing to a book that seeks to defend the traditional view of hell, who acknowledges that a variety of views have been held prior to the 19th century.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2.<\/strong> This is simply false, unless Sproul means that virtually every biblical reference to\u00a0<em>Gehenna<\/em> comes from the lips of Jesus. If by \u201chell\u201d Sproul means the ultimate end of the unsaved then the entire Bible has <em>much<\/em> to say about it\u2014it just\u00a0doesn&#8217;t\u00a0say what he expects it to say.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3.<\/strong> The claim about the Old Testament is the subject of heated debate, but I have honestly\u00a0<em>never<\/em> heard a traditionalist say that the Epistles have very little to say about hell. Doug Moo rejects this notion outright in his oft-quoted <a href=\"http:\/\/www.djmoo.com\/articles\/paulonhell.pdf\">contribution<\/a> to <em>Hell Under Fire<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>On the basis of a concordance, one might expect an article on Paul&#8217;s teaching about hell to be very short. In most English versions, the word &#8220;hell&#8221; never appears in the letters of Paul. And for good reason: Paul never uses the Greek words usually translated &#8220;hell&#8221; (<em>geenna<\/em> and <em>had\u0113s<\/em>). But this book is not about the word &#8220;hell&#8221; but about the doctrine of hell. If that doctrine is defined as teaching about the ultimate destiny of the wicked, then Paul says much about it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>4.<\/strong> If Sproul thinks that darkness and fire are the most dreadful images that Jesus could find, then may I suggest that Sproul believes our savior to have a deficient imagination. A quick skim through Dante&#8217;s <em>Inferno<\/em> will show that one can easily conjure up images much more dreadful than mere darkness and fire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5.<\/strong> Jesus never spoke of a lake of fire. This is\u00a0imagery\u00a0from the book of Revelation. I can&#8217;t understand how Sproul would get something like this wrong. If Sproul <em>does<\/em> know that this imagery is from Revelation, then that would nullify his speculation found in [A]. It would also mean that by &#8220;hell&#8221; Sproul <em>does not<\/em> just mean references to <em>Gehenna<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A.<\/strong> This claim is somewhat speculative (&#8220;it&#8217;s almost as if . . . &#8220;), but it does seem to echo the sentiment (also found in [2] and extremely common in traditionalist literature) that the words of\u00a0Jesus\u00a0are somehow more true or more important than the rest of\u00a0Scripture. On a hunch, I searched the website of Ligonier Ministries (Sproul&#8217;s\u00a0organization) and found the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ligonier.org\/faqs\/reformation-study-bible\/\">following<\/a> in a FAQ section regarding their Reformation Study Bible:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We have chosen not to use red-lettering in the RSB for a few reasons. Red-lettering is a fairly recent tradition used by some (but not all) Bible publishers. The original Greek texts of the New Testament did not use red-lettering or any other means to distinguish Christ&#8217;s words, <strong>and the use of red-lettering can sometimes unintentionally lead readers to the conclusion that Christ&#8217;s words are more important or more inspired than the rest of the Bible<\/strong> <em>(emphasis mine)<\/em>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Oops! \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p><strong>B.<\/strong> If anyone thought that the traditional view of hell couldn&#8217;t be more horrific, Sproul somehow finds a way to make it worse. One must wonder what place there could possibly be for degrees of punishment if everyone in hell will suffer a fate that is literally worse than burning in a lake of fire for eternity.<\/p>\n<p>Far from being a &#8220;great treatment&#8221; on hell, this is one of the most sloppy,\u00a0inaccurate, and just poorly thought out pieces that I&#8217;ve read recently.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>: I just ran across a blog post on a <a href=\"http:\/\/apprising.org\/2011\/04\/01\/hell\/\">different site<\/a> that also merely quotes R.C. Sproul on hell. This excerpt is from a different publication, but it contains many of the same errors. Sadly, some people are evidently not interested in thinking through these issues carefully\u2014it&#8217;s enough for them to uncritically cite a evangelical celebrity who happens to take their view.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently ran across a blog entry entitled R.C. Sproul on Hell. The post is just an excerpt from one of Sproul&#8217;s books, prefaced by a comment that the\u00a0selection is &#8220;a\u00a0great treatment on the doctrine of Hell.&#8221; While I&#8217;m\u00a0accustomed\u00a0to shoddy &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/2011\/04\/03\/r-c-sproul-on-hell-wrong-five-times-in-just-four-paragraphs\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[8,11],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}