{"id":8,"date":"2011-03-20T02:16:53","date_gmt":"2011-03-20T02:16:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/?p=8"},"modified":"2011-03-20T02:16:53","modified_gmt":"2011-03-20T02:16:53","slug":"conditionalism-and-the-second-council-of-constantinople","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/2011\/03\/20\/conditionalism-and-the-second-council-of-constantinople\/","title":{"rendered":"Conditionalism and The Second Council of Constantinople"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I can&#8217;t count the number of times I&#8217;ve read the claim that conditionalism was condemned as heresy at the Second Council of Constantinople. Most recently, I encountered the claim <a href=\"http:\/\/theresurgence.com\/2011\/03\/14\/to-hell-with-hell\">here<\/a>. As usual, the assertion is not substantiated with an actual citation from the council.<\/p>\n<p>To the best of my knowledge, the alleged condemnation comes from a section called\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/schaff\/npnf214.xii.x.html\">The Anathematisms of the Emperor Justinian Against Origen<\/a>. The relevant text comes exclusively from anathematism IX:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If anyone says or thinks that the punishment of demons and of impious men is only temporary, and will one day have an end, and that a restoration will take place of demons and of impious men, let him be anathema.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A few obvious observations:<\/p>\n<p>1. Origen was not a conditionalist. This alone should be a tip-off that this portion of the council is unrelated to conditionalism.<br \/>\n2. What is condemned here is clearly universal restoration.<br \/>\n3. Conditionalists affirm eternal punishment. To anyone who disputes this, I suggest you read Henry Constable&#8217;s classic treatment of the subject, <em>The Duration and Nature of Future Punishment<\/em> (1871). The first chapter is entitled &#8220;Future Punishment is Eternal&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Christopher Morgan makes this claim on\u00a0page\u00a0197 of <em>Hell Under Fire<\/em>, which is interesting because just a few chapters earlier, Albert Mohler quotes the ninth anathematism while clearly explaining that it was directed against Origen&#8217;s universalism (this isn&#8217;t the only instance that certain authors of the book seem to be unfamiliar with the contributions of the other authors, but I&#8217;ll write about that later).<\/p>\n<p>Humorously, <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkpoint.wordpress.com\/2010\/01\/11\/eternal-punishment-or-annihilation\/\">this<\/a> traditionalist blogger quotes the anathematism but replaces the clause about restoration with ellipses! I can&#8217;t help but think that&#8217;s at least <em>slightly<\/em> dishonest.<\/p>\n<p>If anyone is aware of another part of the Council that explicitly condemns conditionalism, I&#8217;d be happy to see it. As for\u00a0the\u00a0only section that I&#8217;ve ever seen quoted in the defense of the claim, Justinian\u00a0did not condemn conditionalism; he condemned universalism.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I can&#8217;t count the number of times I&#8217;ve read the claim that conditionalism was condemned as heresy at the Second Council of Constantinople. Most recently, I encountered the claim here. As usual, the assertion is not substantiated with an actual &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/2011\/03\/20\/conditionalism-and-the-second-council-of-constantinople\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[5,8,11],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/conditionalism.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}